partitioning install

I am about to download beta2 of vista to put on my home computer. I do not want to replace XP but set up a dual boot system. Can someone point me to a resource/website to accomplish this. I also need software to partition the drive without losing the data on it now. This is uncharted territory for me so I want to make sure I get it right the first time. I am looking for a good freeware solution as I am installing the beta and want to do this on the cheap. The drive is currently 1 200gig partition only. I do have a fairly good knowledge of computers I'm just new at partitioning an existing drive, Used fdisk on a new drive installed on my older computer but that was easy as there was no data to destroy. Thanks for any advise you can give.
msb

Here are some instructions on how to do it in XP using Disk Management: http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=309000
Here is another nice tutorial: http://www.d-silence.com/feature.php?id=246 -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "msb" wrote in message

I am about to download beta2 of vista to put on my home computer. I do not want to replace XP but set up a dual boot system. Can someone point me to a resource/website to accomplish this. I also need software to partition the drive without losing the data on it now. This is uncharted territory for me so I want to make sure I get it right the first time. I am looking for a good freeware solution as I am installing the beta and want to do this on the cheap. The drive is currently 1 200gig partition only. I do have a fairly good knowledge of computers I'm just new at partitioning an existing drive, Used fdisk on a new drive installed on my older computer but that was easy as there was no data to destroy. Thanks for any advise you can give.
msb

OK stupid question I can't find an unallocated space
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Here are some instructions on how to do it in XP using Disk Management: http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=309000
Here is another nice tutorial: http://www.d-silence.com/feature.php?id=246 -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "msb" wrote in message I am about to download beta2 of vista to put on my home computer. I do not want to replace XP but set up a dual boot system. Can someone point me to a resource/website to accomplish this. I also need software to partition the drive without losing the data on it now. This is uncharted territory for me so I want to make sure I get it right the first time. I am looking for a good freeware solution as I am installing the beta and want to do this on the cheap. The drive is currently 1 200gig partition only. I do have a fairly good knowledge of computers I'm just new at partitioning an existing drive, Used fdisk on a new drive installed on my older computer but that was easy as there was no data to destroy. Thanks for any advise you can give.
msb

You need to use a third party tool then such as Partition Magic, I am not aware of any methods available in Windows XP that allows you to create a partition from a system partition. You could boot from your XP disk, and try creating a logical partition using the text based portition of setup, boot back into XP on C: and format that secondary partition. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
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OK stupid question I can't find an unallocated space
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Here are some instructions on how to do it in XP using Disk Management: http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=309000
Here is another nice tutorial: http://www.d-silence.com/feature.php?id=246 -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "msb" wrote in message I am about to download beta2 of vista to put on my home computer. I do not want to replace XP but set up a dual boot system. Can someone point me to a resource/website to accomplish this. I also need software to partition the drive without losing the data on it now. This is uncharted territory for me so I want to make sure I get it right the first time. I am looking for a good freeware solution as I am installing the beta and want to do this on the cheap. The drive is currently 1 200gig partition only. I do have a fairly good knowledge of computers I'm just new at partitioning an existing drive, Used fdisk on a new drive installed on my older computer but that was easy as there was no data to destroy. Thanks for any advise you can give.
msb

You must use 3rd party software to shrink your current partition (Drive C: most likely). Then you use the same software to create a new "primary" partition in the unallocated space.
Partition Magic is good for this. Use the very latest version, as earlier versions "may" cause loss of information or existing partitions.
Hint! Backup all of your important data files before you ever undertake anything that has to do with partition manipulation. Though it is 99.99% safe, people have been known to lose everything due to a power failure, or someone pulling the power plug out of the wall outlet at an inopportune time (guess that's to be considered a power failure also (-: ).
-- Regards,
Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
"msb" wrote in message

OK stupid question I can't find an unallocated space
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Here are some instructions on how to do it in XP using Disk Management: http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=309000
Here is another nice tutorial: http://www.d-silence.com/feature.php?id=246 -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "msb" wrote in message I am about to download beta2 of vista to put on my home computer. I do not want to replace XP but set up a dual boot system. Can someone point me to a resource/website to accomplish this. I also need software to partition the drive without losing the data on it now. This is uncharted territory for me so I want to make sure I get it right the first time. I am looking for a good freeware solution as I am installing the beta and want to do this on the cheap. The drive is currently 1 200gig partition only. I do have a fairly good knowledge of computers I'm just new at partitioning an existing drive, Used fdisk on a new drive installed on my older computer but that was easy as there was no data to destroy. Thanks for any advise you can give.
msb

if u have one hard drive u can not make another partition from the boot xp cd...trust me i tired
u can try partitioning magic 7.0 go here and click the download link next to the name and don't click 8.0 its retail demo only...exact and run, restart and look at folder read read me for serial key..copy it and run exe and u should be good from there
"Richard Urban" wrote:

You must use 3rd party software to shrink your current partition (Drive C: most likely). Then you use the same software to create a new "primary" partition in the unallocated space.
Partition Magic is good for this. Use the very latest version, as earlier versions "may" cause loss of information or existing partitions.
Hint! Backup all of your important data files before you ever undertake anything that has to do with partition manipulation. Though it is 99.99% safe, people have been known to lose everything due to a power failure, or someone pulling the power plug out of the wall outlet at an inopportune time (guess that's to be considered a power failure also (-: ).
-- Regards,
Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
"msb" wrote in message OK stupid question I can't find an unallocated space
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Here are some instructions on how to do it in XP using Disk Management: http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=309000
Here is another nice tutorial: http://www.d-silence.com/feature.php?id=246 -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "msb" wrote in message I am about to download beta2 of vista to put on my home computer. I do not want to replace XP but set up a dual boot system. Can someone point me to a resource/website to accomplish this. I also need software to partition the drive without losing the data on it now. This is uncharted territory for me so I want to make sure I get it right the first time. I am looking for a good freeware solution as I am installing the beta and want to do this on the cheap. The drive is currently 1 200gig partition only. I do have a fairly good knowledge of computers I'm just new at partitioning an existing drive, Used fdisk on a new drive installed on my older computer but that was easy as there was no data to destroy. Thanks for any advise you can give.
msb

if u have one hard drive u can not make another partition from the boot xp cd...trust me i tired
u can try partitioning magic 7.0 go here and click the download link next to the name and don't click 8.0 its retail demo only...exact and run, restart and look at folder read read me for serial key..copy it and run exe and u should be good from there
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:

Here are some instructions on how to do it in XP using Disk Management: http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=309000
Here is another nice tutorial: http://www.d-silence.com/feature.php?id=246 -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "msb" wrote in message I am about to download beta2 of vista to put on my home computer. I do not want to replace XP but set up a dual boot system. Can someone point me to a resource/website to accomplish this. I also need software to partition the drive without losing the data on it now. This is uncharted territory for me so I want to make sure I get it right the first time. I am looking for a good freeware solution as I am installing the beta and want to do this on the cheap. The drive is currently 1 200gig partition only. I do have a fairly good knowledge of computers I'm just new at partitioning an existing drive, Used fdisk on a new drive installed on my older computer but that was easy as there was no data to destroy. Thanks for any advise you can give.
msb

I found a good how-to website on Dual-booting wih Vista and XP.
http://www.lifehacker.com/software/top/windows-vista-beta-how-to-dual-boot-windows-xp-and-windows-vista-179906.php
Check it out - Hope it helps.
"Geckoz3" wrote:

if u have one hard drive u can not make another partition from the boot xp cd...trust me i tired
u can try partitioning magic 7.0 go here and click the download link next to the name and don't click 8.0 its retail demo only...exact and run, restart and look at folder read read me for serial key..copy it and run exe and u should be good from there
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
Here are some instructions on how to do it in XP using Disk Management: http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=309000
Here is another nice tutorial: http://www.d-silence.com/feature.php?id=246 -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "msb" wrote in message I am about to download beta2 of vista to put on my home computer. I do not want to replace XP but set up a dual boot system. Can someone point me to a resource/website to accomplish this. I also need software to partition the drive without losing the data on it now. This is uncharted territory for me so I want to make sure I get it right the first time. I am looking for a good freeware solution as I am installing the beta and want to do this on the cheap. The drive is currently 1 200gig partition only. I do have a fairly good knowledge of computers I'm just new at partitioning an existing drive, Used fdisk on a new drive installed on my older computer but that was easy as there was no data to destroy. Thanks for any advise you can give.
msb

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:38:02 -0700, Geckoz3 wrote:

if u have one hard drive u can not make another partition from the boot xp cd...trust me i tired

It is not possible to partition a HD if there is no existing "free" space on the HD.
Actually, what you people are referring to is "repartitioning" the HD, not "partitioning" the HD. If an existing partition fills the entire HD, then there is at least one partition on it, since it's not possible (or at least, not advisable) to install an OS or write data to a HD unless it has at least one partition, and that partition has been formated with a file system. And it does not need to be "partitioned", only "re-partitioned".
The ONLY way to re-partition an existing partition from the XP setup installer (or using any Microsoft-supplied utility) is DESTRUCTIVELY (that is, all programs and data MUST be deleted, then the partitioning schema must be recreated the way you want it), after which you can install an OS. Or, do your partitioning from within the OS installer.

u can try partitioning magic 7.0 go here and click the download link next to the name and don't click 8.0 its retail demo only...exact and run, restart and look at folder read read me for serial key..copy it and run exe and u should be good from there

Partition Magic is a great tool, and will allow you to non-destructively re-partition your HD into two or more partitions. It is not necessary in this case to have "unallocated" space on the HD to do it, since PM 8 will redistribute unused space on existing partitions to the new partition(s).
Partition Magic 7.0 (and previous versions) will NOT properly create NTFS partitions for XP or Vista (which use a DIFFERENT iteration of NTFS than the ones used for Windows NT). You MUST use PM 8.x or above.
Additionally, it is NOT possible to write new partitions using the PM 8 demo, since it will NOT save any "changes" you make.
If you want to use PM 8.x to repartition your HD, you MUST purchase it from Symantec. If I remember correctly, Symantec is charging $89US for a license.
I advise that before repartitioning your HD, you clean your existing HD up and do a FULL disk defragment. This will compact the used and free space on the HD, and allow you to create larger partitions using PM 8.x

"Richard Urban" wrote:
You must use 3rd party software to shrink your current partition (Drive C: most likely). Then you use the same software to create a new "primary" partition in the unallocated space.
Partition Magic is good for this. Use the very latest version, as earlier versions "may" cause loss of information or existing partitions.
Hint! Backup all of your important data files before you ever undertake anything that has to do with partition manipulation. Though it is 99.99% safe, people have been known to lose everything due to a power failure, or someone pulling the power plug out of the wall outlet at an inopportune time (guess that's to be considered a power failure also (-: ).
-- Regards,
Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
"msb" wrote in message OK stupid question I can't find an unallocated space
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Here are some instructions on how to do it in XP using Disk Management: http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=309000
Here is another nice tutorial: http://www.d-silence.com/feature.php?id=246 -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "msb" wrote in message I am about to download beta2 of vista to put on my home computer. I do not want to replace XP but set up a dual boot system. Can someone point me to a resource/website to accomplish this. I also need software to partition the drive without losing the data on it now. This is uncharted territory for me so I want to make sure I get it right the first time. I am looking for a good freeware solution as I am installing the beta and want to do this on the cheap. The drive is currently 1 200gig partition only. I do have a fairly good knowledge of computers I'm just new at partitioning an existing drive, Used fdisk on a new drive installed on my older computer but that was easy as there was no data to destroy. Thanks for any advise you can give.
msb

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Donald L McDaniel Please reply to the original thread and newsgroup. =====================================================

Hmmm! Somehow my copy of PM 7.0 successfully partitioned (or repartitioned) my NTFS XP hard drive and permitted installation of Vista which runs just fine.

Partition Magic 7.0 (and previous versions) will NOT properly create NTFS partitions for XP or Vista (which use a DIFFERENT iteration of NTFS than the ones used for Windows NT). You MUST use PM 8.x or above.